Wolverine #47
Writer - Marc Guggenheim
Pencils - Humberto Ramos
Inks - Carlos Cuevas
Colors - Edgar Delgado
Letters - VC's Randy Gentile
Marvel Comics - $2.99
I guess Logan had this one coming. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does is usually only hinted at. Only there was not so much hinting with this issue.
We here at iFanboy have been poking around at the idea of making this book the pick ever since Guggenheim and Ramos came on board. The last issue was very nearly my pick. And if you know my comic book preferences, as many of you do, you know that I'm no lover of the X-Men, at least from a legacy standpoint. There's still enough comic snobbery in me that I feel a tinge of nerdiness picking up a Wolverine book, as if it's not supposed to be good just because it's popular. But such is the quality of this book lately that I'm able to shove past all of that and declare before one and all that Wolverine #47 was the best comic I read this week.
If you're following Civil War, and I know you are, you know that some of its various offshoots and side stories are not the greatest thing ever. Oddly enough, this Marc Guggenheim guy comes along from television-land, and with a healthy dose of love in his heart for the good old "I'm the best there is at what I do" version of Logan, writes what is probably the most interesting storyline in the whole event. He shoves in some politics, some action, some cliches, some vengeance, and a very healthy amount of humor that's actually appropriate to the character. It sounds almost ridiculous to say, but this is one book coming out of Marvel that actually has a little something for everyone. Hell, it even has Atlanteans.
And it has what has to be one of the most satisfying, non cop-out endings I've seen in a mainstream book in a while. I'm not going to ruin it for you here (not so for the podcast listeners!), but I re-read the end a few times to make sure that what I was seeing was in fact true, and I think it was. As such, I've really got to hand it to Guggenheim and the editors for doing this story the right way.
A big part of getting this story done the right way is to get the right artist. Much like a mutant book, it's also interesting to note that I really didn't think I'd be so into Humberto Ramos' art style. I could never have guessed it, but he is great on Wolverine. I'll admit it's a bit silly looking from time to time, but you can really feel the kinetic energy on the page in Ramos' pencils. But not only does he make the action very dynamic, he's also really got a knack for Logan's facial expressions. The more ironic expressions are especially well done when combined with Guggenheim's words. This comic is very much a product of the sum or its parts. There isn't a single thing standing out, but all the elements work together in such accord that at the turn of the last page, I can't help but think what a fun comic book I just read.
In light of the lackluster response I've had to the X-Men books written by two of my favorites, Brubaker and Carey, I'm really glad Ron mentioned how good the first issue of this arc was when it came out, and that I decided to pick it up. I'm still consistently surprised at how good each of these issues are, almost as if I don't expect them to be able to keep it up. But they do keep it up, and this storyline is indeed a rare comic phenomenon, where a story is interesting and compelling both at the beginning and the end.
Comments
Logan, I wish I knew how to quit you.
This team has been putting out one of my favorite books for the past few months; I never would have believed Wolverine would be one of those books. He's writing a book I like about a character I've never been especially fond of (outside of the movies), while still being extremely true to the character.
For contrast, see this week's Ms. Marvel. I can't believe they expect me to root for or relate to her as written. I kept flipping to the cover to make sure "MS MARVEL" wasn't subtitled "...is totally the villain in this Arana book."
Ooooh, Maria Hill! Comeuppance is coming for you, Maria Hill.
I really liked this issue untill the Shield part. I mean shes the Directer of SHIELD! She can't just not know that. But other then that it was probably the best single issue i read this week. Runways and UFF were "meh" and 100 Bullets just confused me which isn't a bad thing but now i have to go back and reread my issues.
Now off to read 1,001 Night
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Posted by Lance TX on 10/19/06 at 07:26 AM
All I had was X-Factor this week. It was pretty good but it hasn't meant the amazing #11 in quality yet. And Tryp killed Jamie's parents? I totally missed that. Wow.
I did get Pride of Baghdad this week and really, really enjoyed it. Very well done, great allegory, and great questions. Not to mention the art, like everyone says, is beautiful.
Did anyone get Seven Brothers #1? I love John Woo's stuff and then saw Garth Ennis' name attached so I'm very curious about it and would love to know if it's worth getting.
Wolverine #47 was a great closing chapter. I thought this storyline lagged a little in the beginning, but overall I was very pleased, and this issue brought the action to a deserving close. Ending stories is hard, and this feels earned. I'm glad someone mentioned the moment with Maria Hill. That was just fanboy awesomeness.
My POW, however, would have been Queen and Country. I know the book was really late. Yes, I had to re-read issue #30 because I had forgotten what operation Red Panda was even about, but it was still great. Perhaps the drama and characterization in the story is missing if you haven't read the novels. I actually think Red Panda reads better if you have read what comes after (in Private Wars). And what an awesome cliffhanger. I can't wait for the last issue of Volume I, whenever that comes out.
And also, Viva la Suicide Squad. Can we make that a montly? Bronze Tiger should be a mainstream hit. Checkmate is the most interesting mainstream book on the market to me. It's not really a superhero book although it takes place in the world of the DCU and Mr. Terrific is in it. It's black and white, as I'm not sure if I'm supposed to like Waller or not (Actually, I think I am supposed to like Waller). The focus of the characters changes every story arc, but the tone is so amazingly consistent.
Wow, is this the Rucka fan gush post or what? Great week for comics after some slow weeks the past two. I'm energized. Let's keep reading!
What did everyone think about Morrison's The Authority. It looks like it could turn out good, but I think it's a big mistake to launch a flagship title like this and not have any of the main characters appear in the issue. This, much like the underwhelming Justice League #1, was a missed opportunity.
Posted by horatio on 10/19/06 at 08:49 AM
I got both Authority and Wildcats. At first I thought it was a mistake to not have any of the Authority in the first issue. However, I didn't really miss them. I don't think it is the Authority that I like, just what they do in their world. They always seemed like a very realistic version of the Avengers or the Justice League. As real as superheroes can seem. This Ken guy was interesting enough that I didn't miss the team and the appearance of the Carrier at the end was enough for me. I enjoyed Authority.
Wildcats was another story. This is my first time reading a Wildcats comic and I felt lost. I recognized different characters and I knew most of their names, but I didn't get anything about what sort of characters these people are. I didn't hate it, but that isn't a compliment. If I am going to buy issue two, it is going to have to be a light week.
I missed X-Factor. So bonus trip to the comic book store this week!
Wolverine 47 was a perfectly written story. I loved it. I strongly disagree with Josh on the art but it seems like I haven't talked about this book in 6 issues without complaining about the art so I'm going to skip the tangent for the moment.
Ms. Marvel was ok, but only if you take it from
Jimski's perspective and view it as an Araña book guest starring Ms. Marvel.
Civil War X-Men was the best of the series so far but really how high is that bar? It still didn't come anywhere near being actually good.
Union Jack #2 was awesome. I love this book. I'm really annoyed that it's only a mini. This character needs an ongoing.
The Authority scares me. I say this because, and I think you guys have mentioned this on the podcast, Morrison's stuff is either amazingly good or amazingly bad. He seems to give it his all every time and this seems like this could be really really bad. I'm going to keep going though as I'm not quite sure yet. I think that only time, or 2 more issues, will tell. It wasn't Wetworks, but I wasn't overly impressed.
X-Factor was kind of like 'huh what' so I'm going to have to reread it and then possibly redefine my perception of reality as a construct before I can comment.
I haven't gotten all the way through my books yet. Hopefully tonight.
not being able to see the authority was extremely dissappointing. this book is obviously paced for trade which is not a very a good idea for a bimonthly story. the next issue doesn't come out until later december and i'm sure a lot of people will lose interest before then.
that being said, I didn't think this issue was bad. Actually I enjoyed quite a bit. This book had the best art of the week (save maybe for the fables hc). I loved the use of nine panel grid to tell the more mundane parts of the story and the coloring was great. this is my first sample of gene ha's art but this guy is GOOD. His work here sorta reminds me of what frank quitely might be like if he drew his people more realistically.
Some comments...
If you've never read Wildcats, this was not a good place to start. I will always recommend Joe Casey's Excellent run on that title. It introduced me to the series, but I've never felt the need to go back before those. This really seems to be picking up somewhere around where that left off. Terrible jumping on point.
Gene Ha - go read Top Ten. Make the first one your next trade purchase. Writing excellent, art excellent.
You're gonna have to wait for the podcast to hear more. I think there's going to be a lot to talk about this week.
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Only those with a lot of links in them. We had a bad problem with spammers a while back and our filter puts a hold on link-filled comments.
I don't think Ms. Marvel is a story we are supposed to get behind and cheer at. It brings forward another angle for the pro-registration side and we are supposed to consider it. Sentry (I think Tony also) believes sometimes you have to let yourself be apart of a bad thing to position yourself to get control of it. Wonder Man has been blackmailed into his position. Mr. Fantastic fears the consequences of opposing it, which is terribly lame behavior for a superhero. Ms. Marvel believes in following orders. She is a military woman, personally, she may not enjoy taking a kid away from its mother, but she does believe in protecting and enforcing the law. The problem with this book is we want to cheer for the characters in the comics we buy, but this one makes that impossible. We are used to stories where Cap stands up to Thanos and in the end the evil guy looses. In this one Ms. Marvel breaks apart a family, but there is no good or evil in it. What Civil War needs is a reason to look at the registered heroes as superheroes. Civil Was has deconstructed them into normal people. I can�t honestly I would behave any differently than the pro-registration heroes, which is the problem with the story. I read superhero comics to believe that when the moment comes, I would be noble and strong and good. Sometimes I am and sometimes I am not. Cap always is, which is why I like him. What we needed in this arc were some flashback scenes that tell us why Ms. Marvel has so much faith in the law and in the system.
Posted by Dave Graham on 10/19/06 at 10:26 AM
I just can't believe it's Ms. Marvel's book, and there's literally a page where she beats up and arrests and carries off a mother in front of her young child while they're both crying and begging her to leave them alone. Then there's the one page at the end:
CAROL: I dunno, Wonder Man. Did we do the right thing?
SIMON: Yep, sure did!
CAROL: Yeah, I thought so. Now back to my swinging life as a super gal about town. Love me!
Well, no.
They keep saying, "Arachne hurt those SHIELD agents!" as if the SHIELD agents had been sitting in a Denny's waiting on their grand slam breakfasts when she came in and threw Buicks at them, as opposed to them chasing her with machine guns. They basically arrested her for reacting to a problem that would never have existed if they'd just let her drive the hell to Ontario.
On the other hand, I thought that X-Factor this issue articulated the "villain's" side of the issue very well, almost sympathetically, except for the part where they had Strong Guy murder that scientist a few months ago. And killed Jamie's parents. Maybe not that sympathetically. Still, good book.
Somebody (Augie?) wrote this week that page 2 of one of the Wildstorm books this week was the greatest page in comics history. Anybody want to say why?
Playing devil's advocate, Arachne also infiltrated the government training program and tried to help that Shroud guy escape capture. She didn't just disagree with the law and got caught trying to evade it. She attacked the law and then tried to escape the consequences of that.
I especially enjoyed the part when Ms. Marvel tried to justify her actions with paying for the girl's college education. Her mom gets sent into the Negative Zone, but at least she won't have any loans to pay off
First book I read was Runaways. I really liked it, even though the whole 'giant purple monster' thing was a little weird. That and I'd really like it if Alphona came back, considering he only has a few issues left. My favorite thing about this issue was Chase. I loved that BKV didnt cop out and make him have a change of heart when he decided not to kill the girl. I liked that he still would have done it if she had been useful to him. And the fact that the door was left open for Gerts return... should be some interesting times ahead for Mr. Stein.
Second I read X-factor, which I liked. It was a little confusing, but I was able to figure things out by the end. I LOVED the moment where Jamie's X-factor returned... that was a really timely and pertinent way to bring the whole arc full circle. I had a geek-out moment when I realized what was going on, then turned the page and read "I am the X-factor,"... priceless.
Then I read Wolverine, which was awesome. I love the art, I love the writing, I love how badass and true-to-character Guggenheim is writing Logan. It was just all around great. I actually said "whoah, awesome," to myself when I turned the last page and saw Logan skewer that guy in the face! It was awesome!
Next came X-men: First Class #2, which I really liked. I liked the first one, and I liked this one. This is something I picked up only becuase I am an X-men freak, and when I paged through, I liked the art. Turns out it was a good choice. Just a fun, simple, interesting take on the X-mens original line-up. Well worth the $3 I payed for it.
Although I didnt finish it before I went to sleep, I also picked up the Anita Blake book, and found it to be intruiging. I dont know, the whole "vampires and werewolves" thing has always gotten me. We'll see how it ends up, but so far, so good.
Well, back to my "Losers" and "Hellboy" trades.
I picked up Wolverine on a whim, it looked shiny and fun, which it was. I bought the first issue of the arc, and now the last one, but none of the ones in between. Which really makes no sense. Anyway, I agree with Josh - I wouldn't say Ramos' style is typically what I like, but I did enjoy it here. There's an occasional wonky looking panel, but that's more then overcome by the energy and action.
What I would say about Ms. Marvel is that the CW arc certainly felt a little forced at times. I don't mind guest stars, but they hijacked the book for much of the arc. I don't mind if heroes make mistakes, as long as I believe they would; I would have liked a little more context for Ms. Marvel's adherence to the law--as mentioned above, maybe flashbacks to her military time. Something to make me believe it's more than a result of the Civil War Plot Hammer.
I really liked the first issue of this series, with the focus on the character and "gal around town" comeback hero stuff, but it seems to have been all but abandoned. I keep hoping they get back to that. Otherwise Ms. Marvel will find herself perched firmly atop my Pull List Bubble. No innuendo intended.
I wish i got to read my books every week. The Closest shop to me is an hour and a half away, so I only get to go every other Saturday.
Posted by Lance TX on 10/19/06 at 01:23 PM
Wolvie rocked this week, so far the "Vendetta" run has been pretty blood-less (in a killing sense) so it was almost alien when Logan hum...... "used" his claws at the end.
I'm realy going to miss Ramos' pencils when Bianchi takes over with #50, it seems that the style he has used on the recent Detective Comics cover's just doesn't fit the raw style that a Wolverine book is most natural with.
Overall, it was a great end to a great arc and I can't wait for next month's "dessert" bonus 1-shot.
On the D.C. front, Checkmate #7 was flat out amazing, Rick Flag and Iron Tiger were written so well that I would easily pay $2.99 a month for their continuing adventures.
What did you guys think about the new Wildcats? overall I liked Jim Lee's art, but the plot looked to fall in the "Crazy Morrison" category.
"Civil War Plot Hammer" = Priceless
Posted by Matt Wiggins on 10/19/06 at 04:54 PM
I was unbelievably confused by Wildcats...Wasn't the Wildstorm universe supposed to get reset? Why the heck is Morrison started before all that happened? If we're supposed to be getting a fresh start what's the point of writing what happened before the World Storm. I was really hoping for something jump-on-able. Sigh...
Maybe I misunderstood the whole "universe restarting, second big bang" idea.
Jeremy - you and me both
my head is spinning
Books I read This week
- X-Factor #12
- Runaway #21
- Escapist #4
- Wolverine #47
Best was by far X-Factor, which was fantastic. The other 3 were really good but didn't stand up to it.
I just found this classic miscalculation gem amongst Marvel's January solicitations. I don't think that my smartass comments are even necessary.
ULTIMATE POWER #1 DIRECTOR�S CUT
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Pencils & Cover by GREG LAND
Go behind the scenes on the crossover of the decade! This bonus edition reprints ULTIMATE POWER #1, plus extras!
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99
smartass all you want, but I guarantee you that thing sells enough to make plenty of profit.
Posted by Josh on 10/20/06 at 12:27 PM
Oh, definitely. I don't want to mention names, but there's another comic book discussion website and the people who post there are OVER THE MOON about Ultimate Power #1.
Posted by Conor on 10/20/06 at 12:34 PM
Wait: there's another comic book discussion website?
Why?
so that idiots who enjoyed ultimate power have somewhere to go
sorry to the 1% of the ifanboy community that did as well
I have not seen one second of any Blade movie or TV episode, or read any comics involving the character, but I picked up the new issue this week because sometimes I really want to look at some Howard Chaykin art. As it turns out, the writer was none other than Marc Guggenheim, author of this week's POtW. That the story managed to include vampire clowns, Doombots, time travel and sliced-off fingers tells you all you need to know: fun times. It seems they're going for single-issue stories that build upon each other, rather than long arcs, an appoach I really would like to see more of. This one even has Director's Cut has comments on the letters page. One of the highlights of the week - who knew?
Posted by PV on 10/20/06 at 01:38 PM
Nice. Thanks for the spot.
For the record, Blade 1, while not necessarily good is a very fun movie to watch. Pick up a copy...Snipes needs the cash.
I'm pretty sure the Wildstorm universe was supposed to get totally "reset" but when people came aboard to write the tites, the said, "Nope, we're going to do it this way." And Jim Lee said, "Oh, okay." I think he agreed very quickly because he did not want to get stepped on.
Seems like the whole Captain Atom thing is pretty pointless now. Kind of disapointing really. I was looking forward to this. I, like just about everyone else hated the new Gen 13.
I am curious though, why is Jim Lee working on a second title when in a recent Wizard article (I know) he blames himself for how late All-Star Batman is.
Curious.
Wolverine 47's story reminded me of Frank Miller but that manga-like art is a turn off to me. 'not a fan (or iFan)...
Posted by Hulkingmarvelman on 10/21/06 at 03:50 PM
I love this kind of art... im a big fan of Humberto Ramos. I think he draws a really cool Spidey, and an awesome Venom.
Posted by RusMan on 10/21/06 at 06:47 PM
Hey to each his own. I prefer Romita jr's and Tony Moore's style.
Posted by Hulkingmarvelman on 10/21/06 at 07:04 PM
When did Shield become an american agency? I could have swore it was a UN one, why for the last few years have they been working almost solely for the American Government? or at least being written like they are? It's really starting to tick me off
Posted by Luke Batt on 10/22/06 at 09:27 PM
I read Wilcats having read no wildcats at all, and to me it was inaccessible to the point that it bored the hell out of me. I will not be buying any more Wildcats.
Posted by Chris Morley on 10/22/06 at 09:57 PM
Chris,
I swear to god, these are good comics about the Wildcats. You can read the first trade with Joe Casey's work, but the warning is that it starts with Scott Lobdell's which isn't very good. But then, with the second trade, Casey's got the whole thing, and it starts getting really good, especially with Sean Phillips on art.
I'm just saying, I know you read a lot of comics, and, I think you work in a shop right? Just read through it there, but those are good all the way through to the series being cancelled in volume 3. Can anyone else back me up on this, or is that the reason it was cancelled?
Also, there are those who might say that the UN is an international agency, but it's being run by the US as well. I don't say that, but there are those who would. I take your point about SHIELD though. It needs to be more international than it's being portrayed right now.
Ok Josh, your opinions of comics tend to match mine more often than not, so I'll give vol. 1 Wildcats a read when I have a spare moment at work, providing we have 'em to hand.
Posted by Chris Morley on 10/23/06 at 03:45 AM
dont ever talk bad about Jim Lee again.
Posted by Darrel taylor on 10/23/06 at 07:46 AM
Just got my hands on some #1 copies of Wildcats and Gen13, honestly? I ddin't mind Wildcats, I felt there was enough of each characters personality's portrayed, and although it feels like alot has already happened in their pasts, I can easily see someone who knows nothing about the book pick it up and be interested enough in their situations that they would want to pick up the next few issues. As far as the background history and the universe 'starting again', I can understand what they have done, and I can also see them explaining enough for those who aren't Wildstorm dictionary's to be able to understand and enjoy the story, also, I liked the art for both comics ;)
In saying all that, I thought that 3/4 of the Gen 13 issue was nice, but I had NO! idea what was really going on or why, and the final few pages just felt.... misplaced. I may pick up the next issue, but if I do and they don't start explaining things, I'm dropping it.
Jim Lee is an overrated nugget of a man. In fairness though, I did vote for him when he ran for mayor of the lollypop kids.
Posted by Fred on 10/23/06 at 09:18 AM
meant to say lollypop guild
Posted by Fred on 10/23/06 at 09:20 AM
How's this for pie-eyed optimism?: I expect the next team's run of "Runaways" to come out promptly and regularly.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
I too am planning to leave Wolverine when Guggenheim and Ramos are finished, but isn't a pretty high-profile team taking over for them? Jeph Loeb or someone? Is my plan folly?
The new team is Jeph Loeb and Simone Bianchi and your plan is indeed folly. Bianchi has some sketches of Wolverine on his website that I love and Jeph Loeb needs no hype. He is simply awesome.
Posted by Fred on 10/23/06 at 10:32 AM
Loeb's story is going to finally reveal the long mysterious link between Sabretooth and Logan.
I personally, couldn't care less.
I think Casey's & Phillip's "Serial Boxes" in Wildcats was one of my favorite comic stories in recent years. I'd recommend everybody pick that up.
What's up with all the Jim Lee haterade??
It's just me. And it's not hate. I just don't like his work. I get that other people do. But my favorite styles are very different than that.
Also Serial Boxes ruled. So we agree on that.
See conversely, Sean Phillips is one of my favorites ever, and he's much different than Jim Lee.
I have never read Wildcats before and found this issue completely inaccessable.
Until only a couple years ago, I thought SHIELD was a purely US agency. Suddenly, it was a UN organization and I was like "Oh, hmmm, I wonder when that started." So which is it? Has SHIELD always been a UN agency or was it a some point a US organization?
I've tried not to think about the legality of the Superhuman Registration Act, because I am not capable of suspending that much disbelief. However, why would a US law make people join an international organization? Why not Homeland Security, who I believe Ms. Marvel was already working for? I don't want an answer to this question. I just had to ask it one time.
What I love about Wikipedia is that the entry for Polaris is longer than the entries for many U.S. presidents. Anyway, where SHIELD is concerned, Wikipedia tells me that it first appeared in '65 and was a U.S. organization until a year or so ago in "real world" time:
Usually led by Nick Fury as Executive Director, this organization often operates as much as a covert agency as a quasi-military one, initially depicted as affiliated with the United States government, and in later years under the jurisdiction of the United Nations, with vast technological resources at its disposal and U.N. General Assembly Resolutions backed by legislation passed in signatory nations aiding many of their operations, as cited in Amazing Fantasy Vol. 2, # 7 (June 2005).
The entry may be drier than the one about the actual U.N.
If the registration act faced a legal challenge from anyone and made its way to the Supreme Court, it would be overturned in about an hour and a half. But I think that's also true of a lot of real laws passed hastily in the last few years.
Wow, I didn't realize the email about Preacher came across so harshly. I don't think anyone couldn't like it; I just don't get how it's such a hyped-up book. It didn't offend me, but I just like there to be a bit more behind it. I guess it's something between the hype and not reading it at the time it came out that's the problem, but I really wouldn't mind someone telling me if they think there's more there that I'm not getting.
Posted by Erick on 10/23/06 at 11:33 AM
I should have thought about Wikipedia, thanks Jimski. Who needs a Marvel Handbook when there are so many obsessive compulsive fanboys out there? Actually, I applaud the work of wiki-historians. It is a labor of love and I read those things just about every day.
Posted by Dave Graham on 10/23/06 at 12:09 PM
I hated Joe Casey's wildcats and so did many others according the low numbers every week. Hulk smash that crap.
Posted by Darrel taylor on 10/23/06 at 12:31 PM
just listened to the podcast. thanks for the mention. it's my podcast first, unless you count my frappr pin
Posted by Fred on 10/23/06 at 01:46 PM
Darrel, this is one of the many points where we happily disagree.
Just curious, did you like the new issue?
Low numbers aren't necessarily an indication of a bad book, perhaps just one that hasn't found an audience yet. A great example of this would be...
ok i won't do it
I'll do it...
Captain Marvel and Young Justice were two fun Peter David comics that had a hard time keeping an audience.
The Phil Urich/Green Goblin series from the late 90's was around for a year. It was pretty good.
Maverick, from the X-Men comics, had a decent series that only lasted twelve issues.
Also, Strange Girl from Image and Rick Remender
Posted by Fred on 10/23/06 at 03:37 PM
I refuse to buy issue 1 of the new Wildcats until atleast a few issues are done first.
Posted by Darrel taylor on 10/24/06 at 07:58 AM
DT, that really smacks of, at least, a little mistrust of Jim Lee. And I'm told to say nothing bad about him.
Posted by Josh on 10/24/06 at 03:56 PM
I just read that All Star Batman/Robin #5 has been pushed back to the end of January. I believe this means that 1 single issue of the comic was released in 2006.
Posted by Jimski on 10/24/06 at 03:59 PM
Thats it, I'm removing All Star Batman from my pull list, I just realized that I don't care that its being pushed back until '07.
Posted by Robbie on 10/24/06 at 04:44 PM
Ah, screw it - I'm not buying it anymore.
Posted by Conor on 10/24/06 at 05:07 PM
What about All Star Superman? Does everyone really hate it as much as yall make it out to be? I think it's light and campy fun, which is nice now and then.
Posted by Erick on 10/24/06 at 07:10 PM
I love All Star Superman.
Posted by Conor on 10/24/06 at 07:17 PM
I love Jim Lee's art but I know he has problems finishing his projects. And no you still cant talk bad about his art because is beautiful.
Posted by Darrel taylor on 10/25/06 at 10:52 AM
I just saw this posted in another forum...
From the DC Comics Direct Channel (whatever that is)
"Please note that orders for the WILDCATS #2 Standard Edition (SEP060282) and Variant Edition (SEP060283) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited in the January Previews (Volume XVII #1) to be in stores on March, 2007."
I guess that leaves plenty of time to catch up on the previous volumes of Wildcats trades.
I can't tolerate the lateness and I definitely can't stand 'Bat-Jerk'. I know its a different take on Batman, but I don't wan't to read a book where the hero is an a-hole. I'm having 'Red Scare' flashbacks. I should've dropped this a while ago.
Posted by Robbie on 10/25/06 at 11:27 AM
"Please note that orders for the WILDCATS #2 Standard Edition (SEP060282) and Variant Edition (SEP060283) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited in the January Previews (Volume XVII #1) to be in stores on March, 2007."
That would be funny if it wasn't so sad and predictable.
It's still pretty funny.
Posted by Josh on 10/25/06 at 02:25 PM
at this rate a 6 issue arc would take 30 months to come out. Imagine trying to follow that? I just got issue #1 today because it sold out last week before I got to the store. I don't even know if I should bother reading it as I certainly won't be buying #2. They can kiss my ass.
Posted by Fred on 10/25/06 at 03:59 PM
I just heard the podcast today. As I've said before here. The planet Hulk stuff is good. Although in the last issue the art was different and I didn't care for the change. The stories have been good with very powerful characters who rival the Hulk in strength. There's this rock guy who looks like a cone head version of the thing and is definitely stronger than the thing as he almost handed Hulk his a$$ before they became friends. I thought the whole thing has been better than civil war.
Josh, I (downloaded) started reading Sandman because of what you've said about it on the podcast. No pressure, but I would like to hear your opinion on this Hulk run. Just find one issue some where and read that one. Take you like 10 minutes. I just don't understand not liking the hulk. Kind of like, not liking chocolate, or being gay; nothing wrong with that, I just don't understand. :-)
the world need live action moon knight?
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=88846
Wolverine is my favorite character period. Part of me hates that he's so popular, but I can't help it, I love him.
Posted by Spiffy on 10/19/06 at 01:23 AMI very much like Wolverine's convictions in this arc. He really brings an interesting view to the whole "Civil War" story. He insists that everyone is fighting each other when the real bad guys are getting away. I like that he took it upon himself to avenge those deaths, regardless of what others thought.
And the part with the shield agents was awesome. Everyone does make that mistake.