Heroes - S03E09 - It's Coming
167 Posted on Nov 17, 2008 in articles by Conor Kilpatrick |
Volume Three: Villains
Tonight's episode - It's Coming
Heroes is on a mini roll. Last week's episode was the best since season one and the episode the week before did a fantastic job of condensing a few of the seemingly disparate plot lines into one main story. The show is dangerously close to firing on all cylanders.
It may turn out that Robert Forster's Papa Petrelli is the best thing to happen to Heroes, creatively, since Christopher Eccleston's Invisible Man. He gives the show a real, true bad guy played by a charismatic actor. You know you've got a good villain on your hands when you find yourself rooting for him. And the revelation last week that his wife Angela was the one responsible for debilitatiing him just adds a whole new layer of complexity to Papa.
Fivel?
Papa?
Fivel?
....
Uh, sorry. Where was I?
Sadly, no one is around to see the show's creative revival. Last week's episode of Heroes was the lowest rated ever, with an estimated 7.83 million viewers. To put the numbers in perspective, the ninth episodes in seasons one and two were viewed by 16 and 10.8 million viewers, respectively.
As always, I look forward to your thoughts, opinions, gripes, live-blogging, etc.
Comments
Here we go.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:00 PMPapa totally ECLIPSES most of the actors on this show!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:00 PMCome on papa kill everypne
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:01 PMSad indeed that not many are watching right now. It's getting so good.
Posted by xebix on 11/17/08 at 09:01 PMThat was quite the close-up of a decapitated head.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:02 PM...... really? Blinking does it? Without even thinking about it?
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:03 PMOk his chareacter just got more annoying he 12 again
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:04 PMWAFFLARU!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:04 PMI've never had chicken and waffles together. And I have no desire too. I love them both, but that's too much.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:04 PMChicken and waffles together?
Posted by Crash0810 on 11/17/08 at 09:04 PMwaffles hmmmmm waffles
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:04 PMwhoah!?
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PM
I really cold use some waffles right no-- WHOA!
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PMThey should just give Elle her own show. I would watch it.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PMHoly crap. Elle is a badass!
Posted by xebix on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PMHAha Electro-disintegration
Posted by tlavan on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PMpoor sylar cant do anything right
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PMOh, god, it's Santiago the super futbol hero.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PMHuge reference to Watchmen before the break.
Posted by thelaughingman on 11/17/08 at 09:06 PM@connor Whats his power I thought it was super speed but my friend says he can see multiple outcomes
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:07 PM1) Sylar just pulled a Dr. Manhattan.
2) I love An American Tail. Don Bluth needs to get more love.
Posted by Crippler on 11/17/08 at 09:08 PM@cyberauron - Who's power?
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:09 PMHuh. I had no idea ER was ending.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:09 PMSantiago
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:09 PMStand back! Claire is going to use her whining powers!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:10 PM"You're never going to find him... unless I jump out the window and practicqlly land on him and lead you to him."
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:11 PMMaybe they'll meet Matt's turtle in the sewers
Posted by Crash0810 on 11/17/08 at 09:11 PM
I've tried to lift many sewer covers and its never that easy
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:11 PMWow she actually used her powers for something condtructive
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:12 PM@Santiago - Other than handsomeness and an ever present futbol kit, I have no idea.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:12 PMSo, I guess Mohinder is over the whole creepy Fly-thing?
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:13 PMWow! I missed last week, then someone said it was a review show, but I'm regretting it.
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 09:13 PMdoomsday?
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:13 PMMohinder does have some nice scales on his neck
Posted by Crash0810 on 11/17/08 at 09:13 PMSantiago's power is to make at least a million people care about him for no reason.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:13 PM@psyguy421 - Last week wasn't a review show. It revealed hidden connections between the characters. It took place all in the past, pretty much.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:14 PMKid I when I saw your mother I saw sparks
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:14 PM@psyguy411 It was not a review show. It was very good. You should go back and watch it.
It filled in gaps of past events, so some joked around and called it a review show.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:14 PMThey need to hurry up and find something constructive for Parkman to do, otherwise they need to 86 him. He's a distraction from the people I want to be watching.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:16 PMAlso, it was a mistake to make Claire and Peter relatives, they have the best chemistry on this show.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:17 PM@conor agreed and right now its kinda creepy
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:18 PMIs that relevant, though? If they wanted them to hook up, they should have made her older. Or him younger.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:19 PMim going to watch destiny
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:19 PMGotta say I was miffed that they waited until I practically gave up on the show to bring in Robert Forster.
Posted by ameliadaz on 11/17/08 at 09:20 PM@Templar - Is what relevant to what?
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:20 PM@conor I agree about Claire and Peter...that was my thought. He and HRG make her bearable when they share scenes. And thanks for the heads up on last weeks show. I'll check it out after this one.
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 09:21 PM@Amelia - Robert Forster makes everything better. I wonder if he has to send a portion of every paycheck to Tarantino.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:21 PMIs them being related even relevant, since they can't really couple them anyway?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:21 PM@Templar - They can couple them, no problem. They're a couple in real life.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:22 PMI assume that in real life, she's older than she seems and he's younger than he seems. Ah well.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:23 PMHiro Peter Parker!
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:23 PMhes change my mond hes 8
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:23 PMSo... if Hiro forgot all about his powers, would he forget how to speak English, too, since he learned from that girl he spent 6 months with in the past? Or is this a Brand New Day kind of thing?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:24 PM@Templar - In real life she's 19 and he's 31.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:24 PM@Templar - The brain is a tricky thing. Papa was trying to remove his powers, who knows what he mucked up in there.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:25 PMis Sylar a medival monk? suffering is redemptive?
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:26 PMDamn, man. I'm almost as old as him, and I don't think I could date below 21. At most!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:26 PMThese Sylar/Electronica Mars scenes, these are good stuff.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:26 PMOh right. I forgot Papa's power was mind re-writing, not mind-wiping like the Haitian.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:27 PMno no no ...do not kill her!
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:27 PMhmm sylar + elle = awesomeness!
Posted by tlavan on 11/17/08 at 09:27 PMSorry I was just flipping threw and suddenly I was tempted to watch this, but a witty remark:
Talking to Elle is like talking to an emotional and fragile brick wall.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:27 PMWhen you think Matchstick guy is going to bite it.
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:28 PMSo this Twilight movie's ads are all basically "everyone else is going to see it! You should too!", and I don't get it. Should I have known what this was before I saw the commercial?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:29 PMHoly crap! Alton Brown is on my TV!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:29 PM@Templar - Youi're too old. And not a girl.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:30 PMI am here for the Electronica Mars.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/17/08 at 09:31 PMRosie Live! ?
*vomits*
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:31 PMI've got my fingers crossed that some random person runs by and brains Tracey with a big rock.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:31 PMThat sucks. I liked Nathan's wife, and they just retconned her into a girl he didn't really want to be with, that his dad picked.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:32 PM@The NextChampion- I don't know what genius decided she was likable or watchable.
@Conor - I'm with you. Bring on rock!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:33 PM@Templar - It's not like he wasn't sleeping with every available woman. That marriage was not a happy one. Certainly not a retcon.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:33 PMI cant wait till mama come back
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:33 PMWell, he was a whore, but it seemed that he loved her. They're just throwing that it to excuse his whore-ness.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:34 PMand kicks all of their asses
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:34 PMi guess i'm the only one who hated the "you're my hero" thing between peter and claire? way too schmaltzy. i'm digging the scene between elle and sylar a lot more.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:34 PMSylar and Elle... OTP?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:35 PM@cupcake - I like the Claire/Peter dynamic. They were good characters in season one. I'm hoping they are being reclaimed in season three.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:35 PMWhich Sylar's mother is he referring to?
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 09:35 PMI'm gald that Nathan is at least smart enough to remember what happenend in season one. Otherwise we would've gone in the same direction again with him.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:36 PMhow come i like the villains more than the heroes
Posted by cyberauron on 11/17/08 at 09:36 PMWHOA! sylar totes just evolved. a lot.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:36 PMHe can smell fear AND gas!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:37 PMsmooth peter smooth
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:37 PMPeter proves that powers don't make the hero.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:37 PM@conor Ah, yes...all young heroes must learn that lesson before being redeemed and becoming bad-ass again. I think Peter Parker has done this a couple of times, haha.
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 09:40 PMOh jeez is Sylar the next Aristole or something?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:42 PM@conor fair enough but i still like the chemistry between sylar and elle. maybe because they're weird and not the traditional heroes? either way it's oddly charming.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:42 PM"Oh, Sylar... let's have kids! You can wear a funny apron and make waffles!"
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:42 PM@psyguy411 Of course he had to do it twice, he had amnesia. ;)
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:42 PM@conor And thus we come full waffle-cricle.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:43 PM@cupcake - I agree about Sylar and Elle. They are rocking this episode.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:43 PMArthur Petrelli = creepy to the max. Also I think there's some hidden joke about waffles I'm not getting.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:44 PMMore Electronica Mars, less subtitled time travel guy.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/17/08 at 09:44 PMcomic shop NICE!!!
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:44 PM
@cupcakecore - Also, typing your name is making me want cupcakes.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:44 PMAh, sweet comics.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:44 PM@cupcakecore - Do you mean a hidden joke about waffles on the show or here?
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:45 PMCupcakes and hot cocoa?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:45 PMLess yuppy couple, more Lightning Lad and Electronica Mars.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/17/08 at 09:45 PM...Is it even possible for a human to make a contrail?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:45 PMRunning down the aisles, randomly grabbing issues out of the back issue bin is no way to shop for comics, son.
(Unless you have to shoot a mini; that would have made a good show)
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:46 PMNathan just turned into the Rocketeer all of a sudden.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:46 PM@conor on the show. first sylar and then hiro manchild loving waffles.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:47 PMLots of super close-ups in thie episode...
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:47 PMThe Parkman portion of this show is like TWIN PEAKS-lite.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:48 PMYeah, the couples episode....except the couples not doing so hot is Nathan/ whoever Ali Larter is and Ando/Hiro.
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 09:48 PMDamn good coffee you got here in Twin Peaks. Damn good cherry pie, too!
*cue horse dancing with burning playing card*
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:49 PM@psyguy - You're totall right! This is the couples episode!
Parkman/Daphne
Hiro/Ando
Sylar/Electronica Mars
Peter/Claire
Nathan/Tracey
.... that's too many scenes to jump around between. But they are pulling it off, for the most part.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:50 PM@Templar:
'Excellent! heh heh....I have no idea what is going on in this show'
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:50 PMThat was to good to be true, right they would never kill off someone as uselesss as parkman, right
Posted by wilson6923 on 11/17/08 at 09:50 PM4 couples too many.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/17/08 at 09:51 PMWow. I can't believe I didn't realize the couples thing. They're even playing up Papa and Mama, though they aren't seen together.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:51 PMI think they made Parkman useless. His power is pretty good, and it's strong. They just chose to have him suck. *sigh*
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:51 PM@cupcakecore - It's true. They never found anything really important for him to do.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:53 PMYeah. I could kind of care less about this part. It's dragging.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:54 PMGeez, one wife puts you in a coma and suddenly it's all "they all lie" and stuff.
Someone's bitter!
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:54 PMI want Angela to exact her revenge on Arthur for all those times he screwed with her mind. Like fire raining down from the heavens kind of revenge.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 09:54 PMAll you need is love - song of this episode
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 09:54 PMI see your complaints on Parkman, but for some reason I still feel invested in his character.
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 09:55 PMI gotta remember if I'm around a telepath to just think "I'm telling the truth" and it will all be gravy.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:56 PMExcept for Angela, all the women on this show are blonde. What is this, Fox News?
....
*tap*tap*
Is this thing on?
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:56 PMWhoa is he turning into the human fly or wolverine?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:56 PMSPOILERS, HIRO!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:56 PMComic book references ftw!
Posted by xebix on 11/17/08 at 09:56 PMHAHAHAHAHAHA
Red Hulk!
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:56 PMIs Isaac writing 9th wonder from beyond the grave?
Posted by Crash0810 on 11/17/08 at 09:57 PMWait, who does 9th Wonders now if Mr Isaac is dead?
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:57 PMThe guy in Africa. He has a humungous FedEx bill.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:58 PMOh nice Marvel joke there.
That could've been Loeb signing out of the series.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 09:58 PMKill the cheerleader, save the world!
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 09:59 PM@TNC - It's not, the show is like 15 scripts ahead of broadcast. And this one would have been shot well before the firing.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 09:59 PMgood show!
Posted by piscespaul on 11/17/08 at 10:00 PMso is the ice queen one of the bad guys? it would appear that way brotherhood of heroes, what?! i'm also pretty pissed about usutu being dead. i FREAKING LOVED HIM.
Posted by cupcakecore on 11/17/08 at 10:00 PMAwesome. This show is totally back.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 10:00 PMHiro and Ando are going to Smallville!
Posted by Crash0810 on 11/17/08 at 10:00 PMAll that episode was missing was Noah.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 10:01 PM@cupcakecore - Ice Queen is definitely bad. She's going to try to manipulate Nathan to suit Papa's needs.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 10:01 PMThus ends "It's Couples"
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 10:01 PMMan, next week's show looks to be full of win.
Posted by xebix on 11/17/08 at 10:01 PMI would like to point out that in the comic book scene, they didn't hyphenate "Spider-Man". I am a stickler for that particular hyphen.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 10:03 PM@TNC They said we probably won't see the results of the hiring/firing until the next volume, most likely.
Posted by mcbaker on 11/17/08 at 10:04 PMI cant believe I never tried this MSTK3 style before. This really breaks away the anger and tension I get when I read good jokes. I'll definitely do this again next week. Dont get me wrong though, this show still is horrible as a whole. Other then Arthur, there are no redeeming qualities for me. But if I can keep making fun of it then I wont be so angry like I have been.
Next week's episode must be the series finale....How on earth do they get out of everyone not having powers anymore?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 10:05 PM@conor I know what you mean. I still get mad when google suggests I search without it.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 10:08 PM@TNC - Understand that our making fun of it comes from a place of love. It's more about the shared experience of watching it together and whatever comes from it.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 10:10 PM"Heroes" is back.
Sylar redeems himself/ Electronica Mars
Peter is Claire's hero again.
I do miss Taskmistriss tho. :(
Posted by Brandino on 11/17/08 at 10:11 PM@conor: Well cant I be the opposite where I make fun of it cause of hatred? Either way it's fun, heck most of my comments didnt mention on me hating the show...made fun of it just as much as you guys did. If I do this then I promise not to say stuff like 'this show sucks' yadda yadda yadda....I need fun in my life damnit! >_<
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 10:12 PMshow keeps getting better.....while less people watch it. I like the Sylar and Elle parts the best. Oh and does this mean that Sylar and Peter have had the same powers all along?
Anyway like the end with the 2 imposing sides against eachother
Posted by TonyStark4prez on 11/17/08 at 10:15 PMHate leads to suffering. It's the path to the dark side.
As someone who normally hates on the show, I decided to give it a shot this week. I had fun watching it with people who root for it. Which reminded me that life's too short to be so critical. Just relax and enjoy what's there.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/17/08 at 10:17 PMSomeone actually liked the Taskmaster chick? Next you're going to tell me there were Maya fans.
Posted by Templar on 11/17/08 at 10:19 PMYeah, I liked the Taskmistress too.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 10:24 PMI'm confused on Arthur though. He's suppose to be this badass and he obviously hates women (considering that rant he had this episode). But he freed Angela in the end and made the 'Heroes' try and work together....why would he do that? Makes no sense.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 10:27 PM@TNC - He's in love with Angela still. She may have hurt him, but he still loves her. He has some nefarious goals that he needs the Heroes to achieve. He is using (some of) them.
Posted by conor on 11/17/08 at 10:29 PM@TNC You have mentioned your hate for this show for at least the last two or three weeks. Just sayin.
Posted by xebix on 11/17/08 at 10:30 PM@xebix: Yeah I know I have, but I feel left out because you guys have so much fun doing this every week. Again if I riff on this MSTK3 style then I can at least try and watch this without feeling like my heart has been ripped out.
@conor: I understand he still loves her and that was the point of realising her. Still shouldnt that be a big advantages for the heroes now? I mean he's trying to sway Nathan and that Flash girl but....still it's like a Batman villain who goes on a monologue. Why ruin something when your plan is going perfectly so far?
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 10:33 PMi thought it was good...not sure though...
Posted by rayclark on 11/17/08 at 10:34 PMhey i liked it a lot
Posted by greendart32 on 11/18/08 at 12:29 AMThis was good. They just need to change their dialogue style...
Posted by GungaDin on 11/18/08 at 01:30 AMi have nothing to say.
Posted by robertorex on 11/18/08 at 02:12 AMim still convinced mama petrelli has some kind of persuasion abiity...
it seems like Sylar has like three powers now: his intuitive know-how-things work ability (from mom?), empathic power absorbtion(dad?) and the telekinesis (from first victim)
Posted by Brandino on 11/18/08 at 09:36 AM
if papa petrelli has been mind-fucking his wife all this time why didnt he just do it to Nathan?
Posted by Brandino on 11/18/08 at 09:49 AMFor the most part I enjoyed this episode, though I will say all you Veronica Mars fans are blinded by your love of her. I found myself saying "What is going on here?" not cause I didn't understand, but because those scenes were boring and ridiculous.
"I can take it all"
"Ohh now put a little english on it"??? Please.
Posted by CAM on 11/18/08 at 11:34 AMTake it back.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/18/08 at 11:50 AMI'm telling you man, your not looking at it objectively, too much Mars love's got you all befuddled.
Posted by CAM on 11/18/08 at 11:59 AMThere's no such thing as "too much Mars love."
No one said we were being rational.
Posted by PaulMontgomery on 11/18/08 at 12:08 PMSomething I noticed after watching this weeks episode. Papa Patrelli told Sylar that he would be able to absorb people's powers without killing them because he was empathic.
Remembering back to the first season when Peter was "training" with the Invisible Man Claude...he was able to call upon the powers he absorbed by remembering those people and what he felt like whenever he was around them. Which...technically is a form of empathy as well. I wonder if this is a coincidence or planned from the start. Maybe there is no connection...but I found it interesting considering they are brothers.



The dreded C word that's what is coming soon....
and I mean cancellation not the other C word your think of....perverts...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/17/08 at 08:16 PM