Battlestar Galactica - S04E14 - Blood on the Scales

181 Posted on Feb 6, 2009 in articles by Conor Kilpatrick |


Tonight's episode - Blood on the Scales

How awesome was last week's episode?  It was probably the best episode in the last two seasons.  The have really upped the tension and things are breaking down quickly.  With only a relative handful of episodes left I have the feeling that the fleet isn't going to come out of this mutiny whole.

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peculations, theories, reactions, live blogs, you know the drill.

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New York Comic Con and a new episode of Battlestar Galactica all rolled into one weekend? It's a fanboy's dream.

 10 o'clock can't come fast enough! 

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 08:25 PM

You lucky bastards with your lack of children.  I will have to watch this in pieces over the next two days.  I don't suppose any of you live in Georgia and are willing to babysit in an hour?

Posted by stuclach on 02/06/09 at 08:49 PM

@ stuclach - I hear you pal.  I just now caught up on last week when every1 was down 4 night

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 09:36 PM

So excited! Roslin's gonna kill everyone.

Posted by CatEyedFox on 02/06/09 at 09:40 PM

Exhausted after a long day at the con.. unfortunately can't get on to BSG right now!

Posted by Cheezdog on 02/06/09 at 09:58 PM

I don't know if I've ever been more excited for an episode of BSG!

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:00 PM

I'm quite convinced that the strategy is going to be to kill *all* of the show's major characters...so they don't have to deal with the question of Earth

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PM

We need more second stringer who don't know how to use the equipment.

"I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESTROY A RAPTOR!!"

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PM

What's with massaging leg shots?

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PM

Tigh's got the humor against the cylon hater.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PM

Gaeta is gonna get his this episode...and by "get his," I do not mean a a birthday present

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:03 PM

@CaptainPrimate: I don't think Earth necessarily needs to be dealt with.  I'm far more interested in what happens to the people of the fleet.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:04 PM

Does Athen look a bit different?

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:04 PM

@CaptainPrimate That's a Pretty good speculation.

Apparently Specialist rapist really can't work those controls. Wow... amazing that Baltar is the level headed one. 

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:04 PM

@ psyguy411 - heavier?

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:05 PM

I'm also convinced that Rosselin is gonna go batshit insane this episode and induldge in some serious ass-kickery

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:06 PM

Adama could destroy all these traitors with the sound of his manly growl.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:06 PM

@marcushill73 - in the face, I guess. I can't quite place it. Hair's straighter, too, I think.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:06 PM

@ psyguy - no rationing going on in baseships.

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:07 PM

@conor Great line!

I just can't wait for Helo to get out of the brig and whoop some ass so I can congratulate Tahmoh on Sunday at the Con. ;-) 

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:07 PM

"Prepare for Mr. Zarek's arrival" sounded an awful lot like "Prepare for the Emperor's arrival."

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:07 PM

@PraxJarvin I think we established last week that specialis rapist is a village idiot

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:08 PM

is it wrong that I find the Capital One commercials with the barbarians a little funny?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:09 PM

I think everthing is gonna head south tonight...they're getting to point in show where we have seen stand off's before - but I do not supsecft tonight it will all go back together...

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:09 PM

@CaptainPrimate Very true, but I thought maybe last week it was plot convenience. Now it's just the character is clearly stupid.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:10 PM

Oh, the snuggie.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:10 PM

How many episodes do we have left?

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:11 PM

6 more left?

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:11 PM

There are some show off shots in this one...

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:12 PM

Roslyn trying to use the radio looked like my mom trying to use any piece of electronics I've ever bought her.

 

(Sorry, mom)

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PM

I think it was 6 in total...so, we're probably looking at 3 left (after this one)...though, I may be mistaken

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PM

Wow! Tigh is about the zingers, tonight.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PM

Whoa! Was not expecting Badger!

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PM

crap...the Galactica looks really beat up

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PM

Man, they're even rounding up the charmingly rogueish lawyers?

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PM

Ha! The lawyer guy. I always liked him.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PM

seriously, is that dude the only lawyer in the fleet?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PM

But he IS such a cool lawyer!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PM

I think Badger makes for interesting Dialogue in BSG episodes he's in.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PM

@CaptainPrimate Well, apparently Gaeta is a lawyer.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PM

yeah, Gaeda...shove it up your ass!

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PM

Okay, I looked it up - there are six more episodes after this one.  The last one airs March 20th.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:16 PM

Cheif has been like MacGyver last two episodes...is there anything he isn't capable of?

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PM

I love the fact that the Cylons are just wearing casual street clothes (except for the 6, of course...she looks like she is always heading to a cocktail party)

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PM

ooooh, snubbed by he Quorum

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PM

@conor - Caprica premeires in April on DVD, soon after

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PM

Looks like Zarek is going ot have to have the council killed.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM

holy crap

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM

Jesus!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM

Holy Crap!

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM

Well, shit.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM

Woooa

 

Posted by DrkN on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM

Jesus f'ing Christ! Zarek just eliminated the quorum!! :-0

Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 10:19 PM

if there was ever any doubt that Zareck was a complete wackjob...

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:19 PM

Zarek is like The Emperor.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:19 PM

Zarek is totally the Emperor and Gaeta is Vader.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PM

Damn, I guess Zarek is through even pretending about this being about anything other than his own powerplay.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PM

I dunno if he is a whackjob - I think he is just thinks he is a pretty important person (egocentric maybe?)

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PM

Well, didn't Zarek propose to do something like this in his "banned" book?

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PM

Guess that make Gaeda like Anakin, haha, even losing his limbs and being whiny.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PM

Gaeda does not have the stones for this...

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM

@psyguy411 I believe I called that analogy last week! 

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM

holy christ

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM

...see, he is already wigging out!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM

Well, that's one way to end a meeting.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM

Gaeda is starting to have second thoughts....wonder if Zareck is simply going to have him killed

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PM

I've certainly had meetings in the past I've thought about ending that way.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PM

go MacGyver Chief!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PM

the Chief is my hero

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PM

"No! It's not true!" "I'll never join you!"

And whoever claimed said Tyrol is MacGuyver, you're right. 

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PM

@PraxJarvin - Sorry, I guess it's def. been affirmed. You have your credit, sir.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PM

Oh Gaeta, only now realizing the deal with the devil he made. Also never take over a ship without having the chief engineer guy on your side.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PM

He has really pulled his shit together recently.

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PM

oh yeah....the chief is gonna kill specialist rapist! 

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:24 PM

so, specialist rapist isn't all bad

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:26 PM

@psyugy411 Just kidding, no credit needed! But the similarity is even greater now.

@CaptainPrimate I guess not, but I really want him to get bolted.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:26 PM

Kara is awesom!

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:27 PM

Starbuck is kicking ass!  Back in fine form I might add!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:27 PM

so, who is the new cute #6?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:27 PM

christ...finally Lee shows some balls

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PM

I love how Lee is dressed up in shirt and trousers all this time!  Your president for the new era!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PM

Well, now they've got a fighting force.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PM

You know what's not funny? Ill-placed humor.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PM

I think Anders is gonna get it

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PM

holy shit...called it seconds before it happened!

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:29 PM

Poor Sam...he deserves better...

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:29 PM

Whoa!

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:30 PM

Was that a six with Baltar? And it looked like Anders eyes were going weird. Maybe he's downloading or something?

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:31 PM

Man... Poor Anders.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:31 PM

I think Anders is about to control the weather.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:31 PM

@Devastron - don't they need a resurrection ship for that?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:32 PM

I predict that Anders dies and that Gaeta kills himself before the end of this episode.

Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 10:32 PM

Devastron - he makes that face a lot...it's his hurt/distressed face, basically.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:32 PM

@ Conor - FX has had X3 on all throughtout this week - Haley Barry in that (all three films)...what a waste of time

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:33 PM

@CaptainPrimate - Yeah but he is one of the special final five, maybe they do something different.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:33 PM

I feel like someone's not getting a fair trial here, what with the judge being the man who wants you dead and all the armed guards around...

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:35 PM

Is it be I know, or is Zarek just a bad liar?

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:35 PM

Jesus!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:36 PM

"I thought this would do the trick"  What?  a ca. 1985 laser disc player?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:36 PM

Leoben will never not be creepy.

And THAT was awesome.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:37 PM

I love hearing those drums, then you know something badass will happen!

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:37 PM

Maybe its from the viper they found on Earth? Also the lawyer is awesome.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:37 PM

maybe specialist rapist will save Adama

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PM

At what point does Gaeta pull his sidearm and shoot Zarek in the forehead? I mean, he can't be that naive, can he?

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PM

Maybe it's just me, but the time display doesn't mean jack.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PM

No, he's too busy having a pity party.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PM

@conor one of them is bound to kill the other

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:39 PM

No, no - someone shoot Specialist Rapist.  I can't be rooting for him.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:39 PM

That dream sequence was unnecessary.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:40 PM

ooop, Baltar is back to his old tricks

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:40 PM

Baltar, with a conscience?

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:41 PM

I love Baltar up to his old tricks...

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:41 PM

oh yeah...here it comes....wrathful Roselin

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:42 PM

Tigh kicks ass

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:42 PM

Adama's got the scary face on.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:43 PM

The leg sure looked infected.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:44 PM

damn, I thought Tigh was gonna pop lieutennant traitor pants

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:44 PM

Just with a whisper, Adama can set these people straight.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:44 PM

holy crap, that was the wrong thing to say to her

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:45 PM

I think i would be funny of the Chief was stuck in the tunnels for the remainder of the show.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:45 PM

And to think, she was the Secretary of Education.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PM

So far he has been...kinda like Flashes throughout Final Crisis

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PM

Holy crap that speech was awesome!

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PM

@conor Yeah... it sure seems that way. He's like the TMNT of Galactica.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PM

@conor - he'll fall on Zarek from a vent at a crucial moment, haha.

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:47 PM

@conor they cut back to him ocasioanlly, just sitting there saying "fuck, fuck, fuck...I shoulda gone to the gym more often"

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:47 PM

That was a good speech, no "This is our Independence Day!" but pretty close!

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:47 PM

Hmm....not sure I buy Roslin as a bad ass. As a batshit-crazy vengeful bitch with nothing to lose, I sure do!

Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 10:48 PM

jesus....do we really need another Journey to the Center of the Earth?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:49 PM

Chief is totally gonna sabotage the FTL.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PM

oh yeah....you know the chief is gonna save the day

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PM

Tyrol = DENIED!

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PM

FTL offline FTW!

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PM

here it comes

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PM

"Um... we totally forgot to recruit any engineers into the mutiny."

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PM

Oh, this is slightly depressing. I just want someone to end Gaeta right here and now.

Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PM

would someone please shoot Zareck...for christ same!

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PM

Zarek should be used to handcuffs by now.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:52 PM

Poor Chief!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:52 PM

if tyrol dies, I'm gonna be unhappy

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:53 PM

The Chief needs to cut down on fatty foods.

What was that???

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:53 PM

who the hell will raise his kid?  Hotdog?  That guy is a wanker.

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:53 PM

Big ass crack in hull by the looks of it

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:54 PM

Garda has gone over the edge

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:54 PM

Baltar envy

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:55 PM

Nice exchange b/w perps

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PM

and irony

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PM

Wow.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PM

"It stopped?"  Does that mean something?

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PM

That whole episode was intense.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:58 PM

great bloody episode

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:58 PM

His leg stopped itching. He was at peace.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:58 PM

He's at peace with himself it seems...

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:59 PM

Ellen returns!  Yes!

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:59 PM

I knew they were going to bring her back.

Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 11:00 PM

well folks, it was fun...see ya'll next week

Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 11:01 PM

Holy frak, what an awesome episode. That last scene with Gaeta and Baltar was excellent.

Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 11:01 PM

It looks like she's back and not benevolent.

Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 11:01 PM

...like something from of Civil War: The Confession

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 11:02 PM

Was there any doubt she'd be back in some form? This train's on a roll!

Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 11:02 PM

Glad to see they're finally going to address the Cylon mythology and hopefully provide answers about Starbuck, the nature of the Final Five, the identity of the Leoben "entity" in "Maelstrom" towards the end of S3, etc.

Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 11:05 PM

@ Paradiddle - THE part I am most curious about is Starbuck playing the role of "Death", as foreshadowed last season.  I have no idea how this is going to play out

Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 11:07 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 11:20 PM

Great episode.

 

But just for the record,  that wasn't Specialist Rapist who flipped sides, it was Captain Kelly, former LSO of the Galactica.

Posted by MikeFarley on 02/07/09 at 02:02 AM

@MikeFarley: You know, I didn't *think* it was him, but everyone else seemed to think so so I went with it.

Posted by conor on 02/07/09 at 02:04 AM

Damn good and intense episode. Going back to the Gaeta= Vader very good comparison which means that Adama is Obi Wan but more bad ass. As far as Ellen returning you know she is pissed and out to vengence.

Posted by English on 02/07/09 at 02:21 AM

holy fucking shit

Posted by UncleBob on 02/07/09 at 02:43 AM

You mean holy frakking felgercarb.

Posted by MikeFarley on 02/07/09 at 02:57 AM

Wow!  This was one of the best episodes of BSG in a while.  I just hate that we only are getting six more episodes.  I have no idea how the creators are going to wrap up everything, and I love it.  I just hate that I have to watch the show on iTunes because I'm in Europe.

 

Posted by Troyce on 02/07/09 at 02:01 PM

Just to clarify. Tyrel isnt Chief Engineer...he is just a Chief Petty Officer, which is the top-tier of the enlisted ranking. Also he works as part of the flight deck crew, so his knowledge of the FTL has more to do with him being on the ship for 9 + years than any specific training.

Posted by Brandino on 02/07/09 at 04:35 PM

Yes, but he's "The Chief".

Posted by conor on 02/07/09 at 04:36 PM

technically tho he's a specialist after being demoted.

 do we have any clue who the 7th cylon model is? from what i understand, the 5 earth cylons don't count in the number system and we have seen all of the cylon's except for 7. Could that be Starbuck?

Posted by Brandino on 02/07/09 at 05:16 PM

Right, but his rank is irrelevant.  He'll always be "The Chief".

Posted by conor on 02/07/09 at 05:19 PM

i'm not disagreeing with you.

Posted by Brandino on 02/07/09 at 05:39 PM

There is no Model 7 Cylon. The gap in the numbering is a vestige of a time when there were no "Final 5", but rather simply 5 Cylons we haven't indentified. When the writers came up with the idea that the unseen Cylons were special somehow they were left with a gap in the numbering that would originally have been filled with another Cylon.

Posted by MikeFarley on 02/07/09 at 09:33 PM

I think some people are confusing Captain Kelly with Specialist rapist. I don't know what it is but people don't seem to remember the actor who plays Captain Kelly (Ty Olsson). I wouldn't have known who he was if he hadn't been mentioned during a battlestar podcast =/. He's been on the show since the mini-series. He was a part of the scene where Tigh chose to vent the compartments that were on fire, killing several of Tyrol's men but saving the ship. Kelly also tried to kill Romo Lampkin and was sent to the brig for it (we hadn't seen him since then). He was the one who chose to side with Adama in the end, not specialist rapist (who, I'm guessing, was in the CIC).

Capt. Kelly:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/

Specialist rapist:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233304/

Posted by lessthan on 02/08/09 at 07:53 AM

Great episode.  Was hoping that things wouldn't be wrapped up so easily, but the do only have a few episodes left. 

Posted by Grayghost on 02/08/09 at 12:08 PM

Awesome episode, only two small SMALL things, which I hope will be addressed later (one will for sure)

1. What happened with Sam/Kara/Lawyer?

2. In the last episode Balter talked about some papers he had on Gaeta. Do we know what those are and I missed it or...

Posted by Jurassicalien on 02/08/09 at 06:05 PM

@Troyce

 you could watch it on hulu.com...

Posted by viperseatlotus on 02/10/09 at 12:47 PM

Heh, my favorite characters going into the last half of this season were Zarek and Anders.  I saw where the Zarek thing was going though I don't really agree with the writers' choices there -- he had the potential to be a lot more ambiguous, and he has a history of defending democracy, so having him kill the quorum was a bit MUCH for me.  But I figured something like that was coming.  Shooting Anders in the same episode, though?  *sighs*  (I think he'll live, though, I think the final however-many have to live until the end).

 

Posted by ohcaroline on 02/10/09 at 07:00 PM

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