Battlestar Galactica - S04E14 - Blood on the Scales
181 Posted on Feb 6, 2009 in articles by Conor Kilpatrick |
Tonight's episode - Blood on the Scales
How awesome was last week's episode? It was probably the best episode in the last two seasons. The have really upped the tension and things are breaking down quickly. With only a relative handful of episodes left I have the feeling that the fleet isn't going to come out of this mutiny whole.
Speculations, theories, reactions, live blogs, you know the drill.
Comments
You lucky bastards with your lack of children. I will have to watch this in pieces over the next two days. I don't suppose any of you live in Georgia and are willing to babysit in an hour?
Posted by stuclach on 02/06/09 at 08:49 PM@ stuclach - I hear you pal. I just now caught up on last week when every1 was down 4 night
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 09:36 PMSo excited! Roslin's gonna kill everyone.
Posted by CatEyedFox on 02/06/09 at 09:40 PMExhausted after a long day at the con.. unfortunately can't get on to BSG right now!
Posted by Cheezdog on 02/06/09 at 09:58 PMI don't know if I've ever been more excited for an episode of BSG!
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:00 PMI'm quite convinced that the strategy is going to be to kill *all* of the show's major characters...so they don't have to deal with the question of Earth
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PMWe need more second stringer who don't know how to use the equipment.
"I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESTROY A RAPTOR!!"
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PMWhat's with massaging leg shots?
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PMTigh's got the humor against the cylon hater.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:02 PMGaeta is gonna get his this episode...and by "get his," I do not mean a a birthday present
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:03 PM@CaptainPrimate: I don't think Earth necessarily needs to be dealt with. I'm far more interested in what happens to the people of the fleet.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:04 PMDoes Athen look a bit different?
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:04 PM@CaptainPrimate That's a Pretty good speculation.
Apparently Specialist rapist really can't work those controls. Wow... amazing that Baltar is the level headed one.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:04 PM@ psyguy411 - heavier?
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:05 PMI'm also convinced that Rosselin is gonna go batshit insane this episode and induldge in some serious ass-kickery
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:06 PMAdama could destroy all these traitors with the sound of his manly growl.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:06 PM@marcushill73 - in the face, I guess. I can't quite place it. Hair's straighter, too, I think.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:06 PM@ psyguy - no rationing going on in baseships.
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:07 PM@conor Great line!
I just can't wait for Helo to get out of the brig and whoop some ass so I can congratulate Tahmoh on Sunday at the Con. ;-)
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:07 PM"Prepare for Mr. Zarek's arrival" sounded an awful lot like "Prepare for the Emperor's arrival."
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:07 PM@PraxJarvin I think we established last week that specialis rapist is a village idiot
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:08 PMis it wrong that I find the Capital One commercials with the barbarians a little funny?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:09 PMI think everthing is gonna head south tonight...they're getting to point in show where we have seen stand off's before - but I do not supsecft tonight it will all go back together...
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:09 PM@CaptainPrimate Very true, but I thought maybe last week it was plot convenience. Now it's just the character is clearly stupid.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:10 PMOh, the snuggie.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:10 PMHow many episodes do we have left?
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:11 PM6 more left?
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:11 PMThere are some show off shots in this one...
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:12 PMRoslyn trying to use the radio looked like my mom trying to use any piece of electronics I've ever bought her.
(Sorry, mom)
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PMI think it was 6 in total...so, we're probably looking at 3 left (after this one)...though, I may be mistaken
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PMWow! Tigh is about the zingers, tonight.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PMWhoa! Was not expecting Badger!
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:13 PMcrap...the Galactica looks really beat up
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PMMan, they're even rounding up the charmingly rogueish lawyers?
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PMHa! The lawyer guy. I always liked him.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PMseriously, is that dude the only lawyer in the fleet?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:14 PMBut he IS such a cool lawyer!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PMI think Badger makes for interesting Dialogue in BSG episodes he's in.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PM@CaptainPrimate Well, apparently Gaeta is a lawyer.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PMyeah, Gaeda...shove it up your ass!
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:15 PMOkay, I looked it up - there are six more episodes after this one. The last one airs March 20th.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:16 PMCheif has been like MacGyver last two episodes...is there anything he isn't capable of?
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PMI love the fact that the Cylons are just wearing casual street clothes (except for the 6, of course...she looks like she is always heading to a cocktail party)
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PMooooh, snubbed by he Quorum
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PM@conor - Caprica premeires in April on DVD, soon after
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:17 PMLooks like Zarek is going ot have to have the council killed.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PMholy crap
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PMJesus!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PMHoly Crap!
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PMWell, shit.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PMWoooa
Posted by DrkN on 02/06/09 at 10:18 PM
Jesus f'ing Christ! Zarek just eliminated the quorum!! :-0
Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 10:19 PMif there was ever any doubt that Zareck was a complete wackjob...
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:19 PMZarek is like The Emperor.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:19 PMZarek is totally the Emperor and Gaeta is Vader.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PMDamn, I guess Zarek is through even pretending about this being about anything other than his own powerplay.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PMI dunno if he is a whackjob - I think he is just thinks he is a pretty important person (egocentric maybe?)
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PMWell, didn't Zarek propose to do something like this in his "banned" book?
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PMGuess that make Gaeda like Anakin, haha, even losing his limbs and being whiny.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:20 PMGaeda does not have the stones for this...
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM@psyguy411 I believe I called that analogy last week!
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PMholy christ
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PM...see, he is already wigging out!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PMWell, that's one way to end a meeting.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:21 PMGaeda is starting to have second thoughts....wonder if Zareck is simply going to have him killed
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PMI've certainly had meetings in the past I've thought about ending that way.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PMgo MacGyver Chief!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PMthe Chief is my hero
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:22 PM"No! It's not true!" "I'll never join you!"
And whoever claimed said Tyrol is MacGuyver, you're right.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PM@PraxJarvin - Sorry, I guess it's def. been affirmed. You have your credit, sir.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PMOh Gaeta, only now realizing the deal with the devil he made. Also never take over a ship without having the chief engineer guy on your side.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PMHe has really pulled his shit together recently.
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:23 PMoh yeah....the chief is gonna kill specialist rapist!
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:24 PMso, specialist rapist isn't all bad
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:26 PM@psyugy411 Just kidding, no credit needed! But the similarity is even greater now.
@CaptainPrimate I guess not, but I really want him to get bolted.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:26 PMKara is awesom!
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:27 PMStarbuck is kicking ass! Back in fine form I might add!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:27 PMso, who is the new cute #6?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:27 PMchrist...finally Lee shows some balls
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PMI love how Lee is dressed up in shirt and trousers all this time! Your president for the new era!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PMWell, now they've got a fighting force.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PMYou know what's not funny? Ill-placed humor.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PMI think Anders is gonna get it
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:28 PMholy shit...called it seconds before it happened!
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:29 PMPoor Sam...he deserves better...
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:29 PMWhoa!
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:30 PMWas that a six with Baltar? And it looked like Anders eyes were going weird. Maybe he's downloading or something?
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:31 PMMan... Poor Anders.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:31 PMI think Anders is about to control the weather.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:31 PM@Devastron - don't they need a resurrection ship for that?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:32 PMI predict that Anders dies and that Gaeta kills himself before the end of this episode.
Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 10:32 PMDevastron - he makes that face a lot...it's his hurt/distressed face, basically.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:32 PM@ Conor - FX has had X3 on all throughtout this week - Haley Barry in that (all three films)...what a waste of time
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:33 PM@CaptainPrimate - Yeah but he is one of the special final five, maybe they do something different.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:33 PMI feel like someone's not getting a fair trial here, what with the judge being the man who wants you dead and all the armed guards around...
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:35 PMIs it be I know, or is Zarek just a bad liar?
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:35 PMJesus!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:36 PM"I thought this would do the trick" What? a ca. 1985 laser disc player?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:36 PMLeoben will never not be creepy.
And THAT was awesome.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:37 PMI love hearing those drums, then you know something badass will happen!
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:37 PMMaybe its from the viper they found on Earth? Also the lawyer is awesome.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:37 PMmaybe specialist rapist will save Adama
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PMAt what point does Gaeta pull his sidearm and shoot Zarek in the forehead? I mean, he can't be that naive, can he?
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PMMaybe it's just me, but the time display doesn't mean jack.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PMNo, he's too busy having a pity party.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:38 PM@conor one of them is bound to kill the other
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:39 PMNo, no - someone shoot Specialist Rapist. I can't be rooting for him.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:39 PMThat dream sequence was unnecessary.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:40 PMooop, Baltar is back to his old tricks
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:40 PMBaltar, with a conscience?
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:41 PMI love Baltar up to his old tricks...
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:41 PMoh yeah...here it comes....wrathful Roselin
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:42 PMTigh kicks ass
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:42 PMAdama's got the scary face on.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:43 PMThe leg sure looked infected.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:44 PMdamn, I thought Tigh was gonna pop lieutennant traitor pants
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:44 PMJust with a whisper, Adama can set these people straight.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:44 PMholy crap, that was the wrong thing to say to her
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:45 PMI think i would be funny of the Chief was stuck in the tunnels for the remainder of the show.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:45 PMAnd to think, she was the Secretary of Education.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PMSo far he has been...kinda like Flashes throughout Final Crisis
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PMHoly crap that speech was awesome!
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PM@conor Yeah... it sure seems that way. He's like the TMNT of Galactica.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:46 PM@conor - he'll fall on Zarek from a vent at a crucial moment, haha.
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:47 PM@conor they cut back to him ocasioanlly, just sitting there saying "fuck, fuck, fuck...I shoulda gone to the gym more often"
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:47 PMThat was a good speech, no "This is our Independence Day!" but pretty close!
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:47 PMHmm....not sure I buy Roslin as a bad ass. As a batshit-crazy vengeful bitch with nothing to lose, I sure do!
Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 10:48 PMjesus....do we really need another Journey to the Center of the Earth?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:49 PMChief is totally gonna sabotage the FTL.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PMoh yeah....you know the chief is gonna save the day
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PMTyrol = DENIED!
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PMFTL offline FTW!
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:50 PMhere it comes
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PM"Um... we totally forgot to recruit any engineers into the mutiny."
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PMOh, this is slightly depressing. I just want someone to end Gaeta right here and now.
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PMwould someone please shoot Zareck...for christ same!
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:51 PMZarek should be used to handcuffs by now.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:52 PMPoor Chief!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:52 PMif tyrol dies, I'm gonna be unhappy
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:53 PMThe Chief needs to cut down on fatty foods.
What was that???
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:53 PMwho the hell will raise his kid? Hotdog? That guy is a wanker.
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:53 PMBig ass crack in hull by the looks of it
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:54 PMGarda has gone over the edge
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:54 PMBaltar envy
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:55 PMYES!
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:56 PMNice exchange b/w perps
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PMand irony
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PMWow.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PM"It stopped?" Does that mean something?
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:57 PMThat whole episode was intense.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 10:58 PMgreat bloody episode
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 10:58 PMHis leg stopped itching. He was at peace.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 10:58 PMHe's at peace with himself it seems...
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 10:59 PMEllen returns! Yes!
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 10:59 PMI knew they were going to bring her back.
Posted by Devastron on 02/06/09 at 11:00 PMwell folks, it was fun...see ya'll next week
Posted by CaptainPrimate on 02/06/09 at 11:01 PMHoly frak, what an awesome episode. That last scene with Gaeta and Baltar was excellent.
Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 11:01 PMIt looks like she's back and not benevolent.
Posted by conor on 02/06/09 at 11:01 PM...like something from of Civil War: The Confession
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 11:02 PMWas there any doubt she'd be back in some form? This train's on a roll!
Posted by mcbaker on 02/06/09 at 11:02 PMGlad to see they're finally going to address the Cylon mythology and hopefully provide answers about Starbuck, the nature of the Final Five, the identity of the Leoben "entity" in "Maelstrom" towards the end of S3, etc.
Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 11:05 PM@ Paradiddle - THE part I am most curious about is Starbuck playing the role of "Death", as foreshadowed last season. I have no idea how this is going to play out
Posted by marcushill73 on 02/06/09 at 11:07 PMOh yeah, I forgot about that.
Posted by Paradiddle on 02/06/09 at 11:20 PMGreat episode.
But just for the record, that wasn't Specialist Rapist who flipped sides, it was Captain Kelly, former LSO of the Galactica.
Posted by MikeFarley on 02/07/09 at 02:02 AM@MikeFarley: You know, I didn't *think* it was him, but everyone else seemed to think so so I went with it.
Posted by conor on 02/07/09 at 02:04 AMDamn good and intense episode. Going back to the Gaeta= Vader very good comparison which means that Adama is Obi Wan but more bad ass. As far as Ellen returning you know she is pissed and out to vengence.
Posted by English on 02/07/09 at 02:21 AMholy fucking shit
Posted by UncleBob on 02/07/09 at 02:43 AMYou mean holy frakking felgercarb.
Posted by MikeFarley on 02/07/09 at 02:57 AMWow! This was one of the best episodes of BSG in a while. I just hate that we only are getting six more episodes. I have no idea how the creators are going to wrap up everything, and I love it. I just hate that I have to watch the show on iTunes because I'm in Europe.
Posted by Troyce on 02/07/09 at 02:01 PM
Just to clarify. Tyrel isnt Chief Engineer...he is just a Chief Petty Officer, which is the top-tier of the enlisted ranking. Also he works as part of the flight deck crew, so his knowledge of the FTL has more to do with him being on the ship for 9 + years than any specific training.
Posted by Brandino on 02/07/09 at 04:35 PMYes, but he's "The Chief".
Posted by conor on 02/07/09 at 04:36 PMtechnically tho he's a specialist after being demoted.
do we have any clue who the 7th cylon model is? from what i understand, the 5 earth cylons don't count in the number system and we have seen all of the cylon's except for 7. Could that be Starbuck?
Posted by Brandino on 02/07/09 at 05:16 PMRight, but his rank is irrelevant. He'll always be "The Chief".
Posted by conor on 02/07/09 at 05:19 PMi'm not disagreeing with you.
Posted by Brandino on 02/07/09 at 05:39 PMThere is no Model 7 Cylon. The gap in the numbering is a vestige of a time when there were no "Final 5", but rather simply 5 Cylons we haven't indentified. When the writers came up with the idea that the unseen Cylons were special somehow they were left with a gap in the numbering that would originally have been filled with another Cylon.
Posted by MikeFarley on 02/07/09 at 09:33 PMI think some people are confusing Captain Kelly with Specialist rapist. I don't know what it is but people don't seem to remember the actor who plays Captain Kelly (Ty Olsson). I wouldn't have known who he was if he hadn't been mentioned during a battlestar podcast =/. He's been on the show since the mini-series. He was a part of the scene where Tigh chose to vent the compartments that were on fire, killing several of Tyrol's men but saving the ship. Kelly also tried to kill Romo Lampkin and was sent to the brig for it (we hadn't seen him since then). He was the one who chose to side with Adama in the end, not specialist rapist (who, I'm guessing, was in the CIC).
Capt. Kelly:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0648153/
Specialist rapist:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233304/
Great episode. Was hoping that things wouldn't be wrapped up so easily, but the do only have a few episodes left.
Posted by Grayghost on 02/08/09 at 12:08 PMAwesome episode, only two small SMALL things, which I hope will be addressed later (one will for sure)
1. What happened with Sam/Kara/Lawyer?
2. In the last episode Balter talked about some papers he had on Gaeta. Do we know what those are and I missed it or...
Posted by Jurassicalien on 02/08/09 at 06:05 PM@Troyce
you could watch it on hulu.com...
Posted by viperseatlotus on 02/10/09 at 12:47 PMHeh, my favorite characters going into the last half of this season were Zarek and Anders. I saw where the Zarek thing was going though I don't really agree with the writers' choices there -- he had the potential to be a lot more ambiguous, and he has a history of defending democracy, so having him kill the quorum was a bit MUCH for me. But I figured something like that was coming. Shooting Anders in the same episode, though? *sighs* (I think he'll live, though, I think the final however-many have to live until the end).
Posted by ohcaroline on 02/10/09 at 07:00 PM



New York Comic Con and a new episode of Battlestar Galactica all rolled into one weekend? It's a fanboy's dream.
10 o'clock can't come fast enough!
Posted by PraxJarvin on 02/06/09 at 08:25 PM